I got these for the price, over all they seemed similar to others on here. These only works with toe in/out. Will probably work with other camber tools, like the Universal Magnetic Gauge Tool. Which I have and used to set camber. For less than one alignment I got both tools. If you don't know your car, aren't mechanically inclined or just don't like to google stuff or watch videos on how to, don't buy them and complain, drive down to Pep Boys and get an alignment. Unless the plates are bent or damaged, in which case get them replaced as soon possible, these will do just what they are meant to do.