Tried to add pic... but didn't feel like scrolling 1ks of pics. So I had a bale spear with usual 1 big spear nd 2 little spears. Yall know how sometimes bales roll around or can't get a good bite on em... well I welded these onto the lower/bottom/outside kinda replaced the short little spears. Now I have 3 full sized spears. No more problems with bales rolling/falling off anymore. Bales are very solid and stable no matter what. So these did the job. Well pleased.